Monarch extinction and conservatism

[Ron Gatrelle]

I) I think there are actually a lot of political conservatives who are
conservationists. They may not be in the same mold as some others, or hot on
the same issues  as others, but they are surely conservationists. Then there
are always the exceptions to the rules. I live in a very conservative part
of the US. For many years our County Solicitor (chief prosecutor) has been a
conservative, Republican, homosexual. He lost this years primary and was
unable to run for reelection. He did not loose because he was (is) gay. He
was really a very tough guy on crime. Did a good job.
2) Radicals always exist at the periphery. Thus moderates are always in the
crossfire and get beat up the most in any debate. Once the radicals have
spilt enough blood, and adequately worn themselves out,  it is the moderates
that bring reason to the forefront and implement stability.
3) My opinion is that in the micro area of monarch conservation, the
radicals are having their day. Unfortunately, in the end there will be a
backlash that will harm monarch conservation.
4) What the tobacco company scientists did was not bad science it was fraud.
Is there environmental or conservational fraud? Wherever money and humans
meet there will always be someone or some group involved in fraud.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Gochfeld" <gochfeld at EOHSI.RUTGERS.EDU>
To: <jrg13 at psu.edu>; <Leps-l at lists.yale.edu>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Monarch extinction and conservatism


> I agree with John and it's often hard for me to understand why
> conservatives aren't conservationists.  Perhaps its because they face
> conflicting pressures.  The problem I see is that it's a one way street,
> kind of like a chemical reaction.  Some chemical reactions are in
> equilibrium, but if a gas is evolved or a precipitate formed, they
> become a one way street.
>
> Once a natural habitat is lost to development or pavement, it doesn't go
> back to natural habitats even if the conservation philosophy changes.
>
> It's much easier to undo something than to replace it. Kind of like a
> delicate piece of machinery----much easier to break than to make.
>
> M. Gochfeld
>
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