US standardized name reference

[Anne Kilmer]

Ron Gatrelle wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dameron, Wanda" <be496 at lafn.org>
> Subject: Re: US standardized name reference
> > Dear Ron,
> > Am assuming LBJ is use of the common acronym of "little brown job;" sss
> > is likely Silver-spotted Skipper found throughout the east;  next time
> > to make name conversions either way, suggest simplyfying your efforts by
> > using your keyboard 'control' and 'find' keys simultaneously on the
> > Standardized name list at: http://www.naba.org/pubs/enames.html
> >
> 

Thank you, Wanda, that's a great resource. 


> Dear Wanda,
>      Your reply is typical and proves my point. I said this is not about
> common or correct names.  It is about _people_ who live on a one way
> street - the one with their name on it.   It is about throngs who _refuse_
> to use correct names but at the same time  _insist_ that all others use
> common names. And now, more and more, they are just using letters that they
> expect everyone else to know.
>     Even you don't _know_ what LBJ stood for, you just "assume". And you
> are quite willing to just assume in order to protect and promote your
> sacred cow. This is real good science, real good documentation of, and
> relaying of, observed taxa to the world community.

much vitriol snipped

>     Sorry Wanda,  there is nothing standardized about "your" names. You
> can't even keep them a year without changing them. There was nothing wrong
> with (1833) Ogeechee Brown Hairstreak as a common name - somebody just
> didn't like it. Which was their prerogative, and mine - I have chosen to
> keep using it. That is what common names are all about - what ever us
> common people want to call something.
> 
>     Every single known organism on the planet already has a correct name -
> these are highly regulated under international rules called the ICZN, ICBN
> etc. - a real - standardized system that has been in place for centuries.
> 
> RG
> 
Ron, Wanda is a nice lady who was trying to help you. Can't you lighten
up? It's about butterflies. 
As for your notion that the "correct name" for an organism is the one
that the scientists give it, nonsense! Children and poets name things,
and if we don't like the scientists' names, they will fade away like
morning dew. 
Just go on using both sets of names, setting a good example to the
others, and ignore the whiners. That's a nice web page, although I think
Occuring needs another r in there. Right up top, too. Proof readers tend
to miss headline typos.

Me, I'm looking at a garden full of chickadees, and trying to remember
what I'm supposed to call them in Ireland. Coal tit, I think. They are
blithely unaware of any label I may care to attach to them, and so will
your butterflies be, as long as you haven't pinned them down. 
Blessed be all of you, scholars and saints, on this fine morning, and
may your bile flow sweetly into its proper channels, attend to your
digestion, and quit clogging this list. 
Anne Kilmer
Mayo, Ireland

 
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