unknown neotropical moth(s)

[Matthew Barnes]

I'm not often completely stumped by a moth nowadays, but these two
have me mystified.  One is from Jamaica and the other is from Belize -
if they are not the same species they are certainly closely related. 
They can be seen at http://www.tropicalmoths.org/images7/mysterymoths.jpg

I'd be grateful for any ideas as to their identity.

Many thanks

Matthew Barnes
mothman at belizemail.net

 
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