batesii batesii

[Ron Gatrelle]

When I did my paper describing batesii maconensis from the southern
Appalachians (northern GA and associated western NC) I should have went
ahead and designated the syntype I figured of batesii batesii as lectotype.
None the less, this specimen (by the Code) is The Type as there is only one
other syntype and it is labeled from COLORADO. The specimen is from
Winchester VA. a location a short distance from PA. (This specimen is
posted on the www.tils-ttr.org web site in the photos library. )

Klots restricted the TL to Glouchcester NJ (which is just across the river
from Philadelphia). This is not allowable by the code because of the type
is not from there.

James Scott stated in one of his papers that he restricted the TL to
Winchester. That is allowable. However, by the original description and the
ICZN code the "area" (coastal plain and piedmont) from Winchester to
Glouchester may be considered the TL - that is the position I took in my
paper.  Bottom line. Glouchester alone can not be the TL. It must be either
Wincherster or the region mentioned in the OD. (I have also seen the
Philadelphia batesii collected by Shapiro - he loaned it to me in the
course of my study. The specimen is in Calif. Acc. of Sci. (I think))

Although lightly marked individuals of batesii batesii have been the
preferred "form" figured in the literature very dark specimens frequently
occur(ed) in nature in this subspecies. (A pair of such dark specimens are
shown on the TILS web site - they are from New York).  My position to
Wahlberg and Scott is that I see batesii batesii and lakota as the same
subspecies by phenotype. Scott has them both occurring in Ontario. Dr.
Wahlberg has examined the mtDNA of maconensis and found it to be one of the
"ancient" entities in the NA Phyciodes - which is to be expected from its
biogeographical location and evolution hypothesized by me in its
description.

I too am anxious to see what the mtDNA of nominate batesii has to say.
Actually, it should be checked from several different areas in the
northeast US
and southeast Canada. It is variable in phenotype and I would expect this
to be a reflection of a variable genotype. My position is that batesii,
like many other leps in that part of the world, came to be there from the
west not the south - especially the graminoid and herb feeders that got
there before reforestation.
 Ron

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Gochfeld" <gochfeld at EOHSI.RUTGERS.EDU>
To: <Niklas.Wahlberg at zoologi.su.se>
Cc: <leps-l at lists.yale.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: batesii batesii


> I suppose you know that Phyciodes batesii batesii is rather a mystery in
> the northeast. Although the type locality has been attributed to New
> Jersey and although there are some recorded from the Philadelphia area
> in the mid-20th century, there are no recent records.  There was one
> well known site in central New York where, as far as I have heard, there
> are no recent records. A lot of people would like to know where
> P.b.batesii can be found.   M Gochfeld
>
> Niklas Wahlberg wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >        I have been working for the past year or so on the molecular
> > phylogenetics of the genus Phyciodes. As many of you in North America
know,
> > this is a pretty messy group of species taxonomically. Well, it will
come
> > as no surprise that they are very messy genetically as well! My project
is
> > nearing its end and I hope to have it published soon. However, one
thing
> > has become painfully apparent: Phyciodes batesii (Tawny Crescent) seems
to
> > be a composite of different species. I do not have representatives of
the
> > nominate subspecies (Phyciodes batesii batesii) in my molecular
phylogeny,
> > which makes the patterns I am observing _very_ difficult to interpret.
I
> > would therefore be exceedingly happy if somebody could collect a few
> > specimens of batesii batesii this summer from the northeastern parts of
> > North America. Please contact me directly for details of how to
collect,
> > preserve and send specimens.
> >        Thanks very much in advance!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Niklas
> >
> > Niklas Wahlberg
> > Department of Zoology
> > Stockholm University
> > S-106 91 Stockholm
> > SWEDEN
> >
> > Phone: +46 8 164047
> > Fax:   +46 8 167715
> >
> > http://www.zoologi.su.se/research/ihp/
> >
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