please help us...HERE I COME!
Jere Kahanpaa
kahanpaa at gstar.astro.helsinki.fi
Wed Apr 10 05:58:15 EDT 2002
Hi.
Paul Cherubini <monarch at saber.net> wrote:
> picking on. Below I found a New York Times article that
> provides more evidence of Dr. Jeffrey Glassberg's anti-collecting
> position. This case involved monarch butterflies that were
> collected near near Montauk, New York in Sept. 2000 and driven
> about 100 miles to New York City for a tagging demonstration
> and release by Prof. Orley (Chip) Taylor and some children in
> attendance.
> The article goes on to describe Jeffrey Glassberg's objections
> to Dr. Taylor's demonstration:
> "Using monarchs for such an agenda is not universally
> popular in the butterfly world. The president of the
> North American Butterfly Association, Jeffrey
> Glassberg, denounced yesterday's event, calling it a
> ''circus sideshow.'' Mr. Glassberg, a molecular biologist
> by training, said that truly respecting monarchs meant
> treating them like wild creatures and observing them in
> their natural environment, not trucking them in for
> a demonstration."
> ''Butterflies are wild animals,'' he said. ''To treat them
> as little toys that you take around and say, 'Isn't that
> cute?' sends completely the wrong message to people.''
Come on, trucking butterflies around and releasing them has nothing in
common with being 'pro-collecting' or 'anti-collecting'!
Personally I am for careful sampling of populations for study and
teaching, but would strongly oppose this kind of operationg *if it is
only for the show*. But this case it isn't: tagging monarchs is (IIRC) a
real scientific research project, isn't it?
The 'master trollers' of usenet should read this newsgroup for a good
show. Maybe they do? While the flamage can sometimes be amusing, I think
it is very harmful for both amateur and professional entomology: nobody
knows how many promising young lepsters-to-be have been scared out of the
group/list by all these venomous comments.
Jere Kahanpää
--
It's hard to think outside the box when you ARE the box.
- unknown, alt.religion.kibology
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