Do Monarchs need Mexican forests?

[Patrick Foley]

Paul,

This is my last post on this dumb subject (whether I have insulted
corporations). It is well established that many corporations have lied,
cheated and stolen using bogus science. Consider the tobacco industry
alone, but there are plenty of examples. Academic fraud occurs but is
relatively rare.

Any honest person who has worked for industry (as I have) knows how much
pressure there is to fudge.

Are you disagreeing with me from principle or are you being paid to do
so? This is not a rhetorical question. Many people on this list would
like to know.

Patrick Foley
patfoley at csus.edu

Paul Cherubini wrote:

> Patrick Foley wrote:
>
> > > "Corporate intellectual efforts are a real mixture of
> > > excellence, fraud and opportunistic dishonesty."
>
> > Do you think I am wrong or are you just arguing for the fun of it?
>
> Pat, I think some would say you have attacked the integrity
> of the thousands of individuals and scientists that work in private
> industry.
>
> Now look what happens if we change one word in what you wrote:
>
> "UNIVERSITY intellectual efforts are a real mixture of
>  excellence, fraud and opportunistic dishonesty."
>
> If I were to make that claim many would say I had
> attacked the integrity of thousands of individuals and
> scientists that work in our Universities.
>
> A double standard.
>
> Paul Cherubini
>
>
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