Do Monarchs need Paul Cherubini?

[Chuck Vaughn]

Pat,
 
> I did not write the words you are quoting. You should address Bob Parcelles.

Okay. Sorry. Just change it to Bob then.

Chuck <aa6g at aa6g.org>

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>> Pat,
>> 
>> I'm not writing this to defend Paul or attack you or anyone else
>> but I have a few observations and comments.
>> 
>> I don't know you or Paul other than what you write here so if I
>> draw any wrong conclusions I apologize in advance.
>> 
>>>> Many of you treat Paul as an eccentric. That seems very reasionable.
>> 
>> I don't find Paul to be eccentric but to have a very different world
>> view than you do. It's a view shared by a lot of people. Not everyone
>> thinks the world is going to hell in a hand basket and that the
>> environment is in danger of imminent collapse.
>> 
>>>> but I am sensing something much more sinister.
>> 
>> When I hear people talk this way I ususally find they are on the extreme
>> right or extreme left and are generally in the same place...the land of
>> conspiracy theory....an imaginary place that I don't believe in.<g>
>> 
>>>> Just look at the
>>>> anti-science being promoted by the establishment as well as even some
>>>> knee-jerk pablum puking granola-bar junkies.
>> 
>> To which establishment are you referring?
>> 
>>>> Paul is contributing to
>>>> that type of hysteria much more than even Jeff Glassberg is.
>> 
>> I was taken aback by this. It's my experience that the environmental
>> left is associated with most of the hysteria. BTW, you know there is
>> an environmental right? Its the group concerned with the environment
>> and address real problems we have right now but doesn't subscribe to
>> the environmental sky is falling syndrome.
>> 
>>>> Paul you need to chill it down. We have millions of people dying
>> 
>> What are you implying? People die everyday. So what?
>> 
>>>> Paul Ehrlich work was exagerated
>> 
>> He proved one thing. Anyone who tries to predict the future is almost
>> always wrong. ;-)
>> 
>>>> but millions of babies do starve Africa.
>> 
>> This is mostly due to the miserable lousy excuses they have for
>> governments in nearly all those countries. More democracy, personal freedom
>> and free enterprise would go a long way towards solving their problems.
>> 
>>>> We export DDT all over the world. we have millions with cancer? why?
>> 
>> I have to read between the line here. Are you saying trace chemicals
>> in the environment are causing cancer? There's a lot of hysteria over
>> this but no one has ever been able to prove it. People are living
>> longer. This is a good thing, right? The downside is that more will
>> die of cancer because it's a disease that affects more older people.
>> 
>>>> Someone is goiung to pay the piper sooner or later.
>> 
>> More reading between the lines.... Sounds like you subscribe to
>> the environment is about to collapse theory.
>> 
>>>> Read
>>>> your American history. We are different. People are racing to de
>>>> intensify us.
>> 
>> What do mean by this?
>> 
>>>> Anti-science and skepticism are achieving their goal.
>> 
>> Who's anit-science? And isn't skepticism part of science?
>> 
>>>> Sooner or later people will have enough of liars and the people who
>>>> have created and encouraged them. Dr. Lincoln Brower is neither.
>>>> I have worked for a consultant for govt and privsate industry for
>>>> many years. I se h9ow people (and governmnet have tried to influence
>>>> results). Until recently, academia was safe from these pressures. Now
>>>> it is affecting the funding of all research.
>> 
>> It's hard for me to believe that academia was ever free from the human
>> drives for power and influence. There are a lot of stories that would
>> indicate otherwise.
>> 
>> A lot of problems I think you're referring to would disappear if
>> government wasn't in the business of taking our tax maney and then
>> handing it out to researchers and businesses. Essentially they're granting
>> favors and this motivates people into all sorts of questionable behaviors.
>> 
>> Chuck Vaughn <aa6g at aa6g.org>
>> 
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