Miami Blue - list or save?
bfly4u at swbell.net
Tue Apr 30 22:36:27 EDT 2002
I posted to this effect last night to Ed Reinertsen who had
misgivings about working for Glassberg. I thought I answered that
pretty succinctly. apparently not since I have had no reply from him
with about 10 people a day asking me where to get the seeds he
promised. So now I have to fly in to the keys and answer these people
and then post to these arm chair warriors on this list.
Bob and all
I had 8 people ask for seeds, they will recieve there seeds at the end of
Do you have others that need seed?
"Bob Parcelles,Jr." wrote:
> --- Mark Walker <MWalker at gensym.com> wrote:
> > I'm going to peep in on this thread, though I've provided little
> > assistance
> > to date on the project.
> > Bob Parcelles wrote a few things here that I felt needed
> > clarification:
> It has never been the purpose of the Miami Blue Butterfly Restoration
> Project to "get" the critter listed". Your very good points have
> been covered by us many times. I just want to clarify that my post
> was in reaction to one that Jeffrey Glassberg's protege sent to Anne
> and widely distrubuted it, claiming his project to be the valid one
> and that and other publicity expressed intense displeasure that the
> butterfly was not immediately listed. All his efforts are in the
> direction of speeding up and intensifying the action of listing. His
> impatience and and dislike of the Federal Action so far has been made
> very evident.
> All of our plans to restore this host-plant "starved" subspecies are
> predicated on it NOT BEING listed and that act will serve to keep us
> from acomplishing our initial goals. The top butterfly guy, Glassberg
> does not see this rather somple logic. I hope I have addressed your
> questions without being too overly redundant. We have 3 little
> colonies on Bahia Honda State Park (as of yesterday) with droves of
> people trying to photgraph them and possibly hug and kiss them to
> death. If people would put there money where there mouth is we would
> get out 20,000 brochures and for that matter I have some very big
> friends that like to camp and would manage "docents" who seem to be
> coming out of the woodwork. So Mark, your comments are well placed
> but I have to be a politician and say things that beat around the
> Our goals are to plant host plants and get the population to a stable
> enough point so it can have rearing activites to reintroduce into
> suitable habitat. Anne has posted about 35 articles here and
> elswwhere talking about all of the grass roots hoopla. Well it is
> real simple we will do it with or withpout you, Glassberg or anybody
> that apparently no longer wants to send seeds. We have merged with no
> one and do not intend to.
> I posted to this effect last night to Ed Reinertsen who had
> misgivings about working for Glassberg. I thought I answered that
> pretty succinctly. apparently not since I have had no reply from him
> with about 10 people a day asking me where to get the seeds he
> promised. So now I have to fly in to the keys and answer these people
> and then post to these arm chair warriors on this list.
> So Mark I like that you have "peeped" in to this thread. that is
> nioce and we like to hear from you right or wrong. But I suggest
> instead of peeping you come in eyes wide open with your shirt sleeves
> rolled up and help us.
> If synchronizing with Dr. Kelley's efforts mean that we are working
> for Glassberg, then I intend to go back on my word also. It seems to
> be the soup of the day.
> Actually if you want passive efforts Glassbereg has room for a few
> Your friend,
> Bob Parcelles, Jr
> Pinellas Park, FL
> RJP Associates & Clean Millennium Movement (C2M)
> rjparcelles at yahoo.com
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