killing butterflies for fun???

Joseph Sugar josephsugar736 at hotmail.com
Thu May 9 11:22:25 EDT 2002


Get a grip on reality????  I am trying to do the right thing here.  I am 
trying to stop a very disturbing practice and you tell ME to get a grip on 
reality?

Telling someone what to wear is different from telling someone not to murder 
a living thing, dont'cha think????  We are not dealing with opinion, but 
with right vs. wrong.  Generally, those who wish to preserve life are right. 
  Those who take life are wrong.  I believe I have the support of most 
Americans in this.

And you don't have to be an expert in butterflies to know that they 
shouldn't be "hunted for sport".  As I infered in my first post, if someone 
has the urge to kill something, then take it out on the bugs that do damage, 
like the moths.  But leave the butterflies, who everyone loves, ALONE!

And Barb, in the middle of typing this, I received your bigfoot message.  I 
seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest when all I wanted to do is get some 
information.  I am very uncomfortable giving other people's names out on the 
web and I'm too busy to be playing the stupid games you suggest.

Joseph



>From: Sean Patrick Mullen <spm23 at cornell.edu>
>To: josephsugar736 at hotmail.com
>CC: LEPS-L at lists.yale.edu
>Subject: Re: killing butterflies for fun???
>Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 10:58:06 -0400
>
>Dear Joseph,
>
>Please get a grip on reality.  How much do you know about the
>professional or amateur study of Lepidoptera?  My guess is nothing.
>If you have well-thought out valid objections to collecting, then I
>tip my hat to you and applaud the fact that you're making a personal
>decision not to collect.  If, however, you are, as I suspect, making
>a fairly uninformed and reactionary decision to champion new
>legislation against collecting, then think about this for a minute.
>
>Do I tell you what you can wear?  What you should eat, how you should
>worship, who you can or can not associate with?  No.  Why, because
>your constitutional rights protect you from my opinions.  Now, if you
>can convince 51% of the voting public that your right, then you can
>force you ideas down my throat.  Until then, stick to what you know.
>
>-Sean
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>Hi butterfly lovers,
>>
>>I am new to this group and did a lot of searching to find you all.  I
>>recently attended an audubon meeting in my county and the speaker
>>did his talk on butterflies.  I went expecting to see pictures of
>>live butterflies and to learn more about them.
>>
>>Instead, this guy (I won't mention his name - I don't want to get a
>>lynch mob goin ;)), brought in his collection of butterflies that he
>>killed and mounted FOR FUN!
>>
>>Since this is a butterfly group, I know you will be disturbed to
>>hear this, but I was wondering if there are any laws to protect
>>them?  Can just anyone go out an kill butterflies just for the fun
>>of it?  He also had a collection of moths that had pins through
>>them.  This didn't really bother me as much since most of them are
>>pests, but it would seem to me that we would have laws to protect
>>some of our most beautiful creatures.  What this guy does, and
>>others like him, is morally wrong and I intend to turn around this
>>disturbing trend that murder is okay as long as the perpetrator is having 
>>fun.
>>
>>Just looking for direction on where to go, and sorry if the
>>discussion of dead butterflies has ruined your breakfast.
>>
>>Joseph
>
>--




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Joseph S.
New York, The US of A

"A man who preserves a life, saves a life.
A man who saves a life, gives life.
A man who gives life, is a woman."
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