was:Monarchs now humanity
patfoley at csus.edu
Mon Apr 11 15:26:01 EDT 2005
My last word (for a long while I hope) on the subject of religion is
actually that of an American icon, Thomas Paine.
<>I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the
Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the
Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or
Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify
and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. I do not mean by
this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise. They have the
same right to their belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to the
happiness of man, that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity
does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving: it consists in
professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine,
The Age of Reason
yours in reason,
Jonathan Sylvestre wrote:
> There is something that i dont like about religious people... They say
> lots of things but they never explain what they say...
> Because we are in a scientific list here, and because the subject
> interest me, i would like to ask you a question
> You said :
> "1) Only the human body is a part of nature. We are responsible for
> our the
> natural world because we are the only spiritual creature here."
> I though that we are nearly identical to all other organism (should i
> have to explain you what i mean by nearly identical..) on this planet
> so if we have a body that is a part of the nature and something else
> that is a part of you must know what... why butterflies and moth,
> bacteria, plants, squirels,... have not this somthing else thing ???
> Is there a heaven for butterflies (other than a flowerfull little
> clearing) ??
> I like to get responses... its in my nature... but cant cahnge my mind
> because i have the immunity to religion too.
> what is religion ? an increadible number of interactions between
> neurones in the brain of "superiors" animals
> if you dont want to answer my questions... please do it for other
> people in the list
> Last thing
> please, stop calling living organism "creature"
> Jonathan Sylvestre
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