[Nhcoll-l] [HERBARIA] polypropylene annotation labels?
Dirk Neumann
dirk.neumann at zsm.mwn.de
Mon Jul 14 10:02:57 EDT 2014
... I see, I should have brought a mouthful with me to Cardiff ...
Tervuren/MRAC is using a similar system but not exactly the same at
there we had peeling ribbon that came off. But good point to test it.
Could you send 2-3 of your labels ? I will immerse them in MEK - let's
see what happens. Happy to place a jar at the window for direct exposure.
What do you think ? Would it be worth trying ?
All the best
Dirk
Am 14.07.2014 15:45, schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:
>
> Dirk
>
> Don't knock it until you have tried it JHas anyone using MEKI
> denatured alcohol tried using this labelling system and found it to
> fail? I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has.
>
> We have been using this system for over 10 years now plus I have had
> an informal test going on my windowsill in full sunlight in 95%
> ethanol, and conc formalin for over 7 years now without any visible
> adverse effects. There are also the accelerated aging tests done on
> the material that I published in my newsletter article.
>
> The only negative effects I have seen are when the incorrect ribbon is
> used with the media which causes the print to flake off.
>
> Andy
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> Andy Bentley
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
> University of Kansas
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> *From:*nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
> [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf Of *Dirk Neumann
> *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2014 2:27 AM
> *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] [HERBARIA] polypropylene annotation labels?
>
> Hi Dorothy, (Patrick),
>
> always bickering with Andy here (Hi Andy ;-)
>
> - again, know your settings: this method works well for fluid
> collections which e.g. use undenatured alcohol or were the denaturing
> agent is not reactive against plastics. I would definitely refrain to
> use this labelling method in our fish collection as we have to use MEK
> denatured alcohol. MEK is a highly aggressive and reactive ketone,
> which is very well known to cracks down polymer-chains.
>
> European collections should be very careful here, especially in the
> light of the new EU-directive EU No. 162/2013 which prescribes even
> higher amounts of MEK for denaturing and prescribes usage of MEK in
> those countries which used different denaturing agents prior to 2013
> (e.g. IMS / camphor).
>
> All the best
> Dirk
>
>
> Am 11.07.2014 17:51, schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:
>
> Dorothy
>
>
>
> Wet collections have been using this system for some time now for alcohol labels with very good results. We are printing on to a spun bound polyester using a thermal transfer printer and wax/resin ribbon. This is obviously not a sticky backed label kind of media but I am sure a similar kind of thing could be sourced. Attached is some information on the system and printer that we use as well as a price list from Alpha Systems, the company through we which we buy our supplies.
>
>
>
> Happy to provide further information or label samples if needed
>
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> A : A : A :
>
> }<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<)))_°>
>
> V V V
>
> Andy Bentley
>
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
>
> University of Kansas
>
> Biodiversity Institute
>
> Dyche Hall
>
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
>
> USA
>
>
>
> Tel: (785) 864-3863
>
> Fax: (785) 864-5335
>
> Email:abentley at ku.edu <mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
>
> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
>
>
>
> SPNHC President
>
> http://www.spnhc.org
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu <mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Sweeney, Patrick
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> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:36 AM
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> To:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
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> Cc: Dorothy Allard
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> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FW: [HERBARIA] polypropylene annotation labels?
>
>
>
> Posted on behalf of a colleagueŠ
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> On 7/10/14 9:45 AM, "Dorothy J. Allard"<djallard at uvm.edu> <mailto:djallard at uvm.edu> wrote:
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>
> Hi folks,
>
>
>
> We are looking for a print-on-demand (printing one label at a time)
>
> method of annotating herbarium sheets. Can anyone share their
>
> experience with thermal transfer label printers (_not_ direct thermal)
>
> using wax resin ribbons and polypropylene labels? I am particularly
>
> interested in the community's opinion on the likelihood that such
>
> labels will be readable for the long term and will not break down.
>
>
>
> We are considering the purchase of a Zebra GC420t printer, wax/resin
>
> ribbons and polypropylene labels.
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>
>
> Thanks!
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>
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