[Nhcoll-l] [HERBARIA] polypropylene annotation labels?
Bentley, Andrew Charles
abentley at ku.edu
Mon Jul 14 10:31:25 EDT 2014
Yes, sure it would. I would be happy to send you some labels and have you immerse them and test it out.
In the mail today.
Andy
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From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Dirk Neumann
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 9:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] [HERBARIA] polypropylene annotation labels?
... I see, I should have brought a mouthful with me to Cardiff ...
Tervuren/MRAC is using a similar system but not exactly the same at there we had peeling ribbon that came off. But good point to test it. Could you send 2-3 of your labels ? I will immerse them in MEK - let's see what happens. Happy to place a jar at the window for direct exposure.
What do you think ? Would it be worth trying ?
All the best
Dirk
Am 14.07.2014 15:45, schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:
Dirk
Don't knock it until you have tried it :) Has anyone using MEKI denatured alcohol tried using this labelling system and found it to fail? I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has.
We have been using this system for over 10 years now plus I have had an informal test going on my windowsill in full sunlight in 95% ethanol, and conc formalin for over 7 years now without any visible adverse effects. There are also the accelerated aging tests done on the material that I published in my newsletter article.
The only negative effects I have seen are when the incorrect ribbon is used with the media which causes the print to flake off.
Andy
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Andy Bentley
Ichthyology Collection Manager
University of Kansas
Biodiversity Institute
Dyche Hall
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
USA
Tel: (785) 864-3863
Fax: (785) 864-5335
Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu<http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/>
SPNHC President
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From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Dirk Neumann
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] [HERBARIA] polypropylene annotation labels?
Hi Dorothy, (Patrick),
always bickering with Andy here (Hi Andy ;-)
- again, know your settings: this method works well for fluid collections which e.g. use undenatured alcohol or were the denaturing agent is not reactive against plastics. I would definitely refrain to use this labelling method in our fish collection as we have to use MEK denatured alcohol. MEK is a highly aggressive and reactive ketone, which is very well known to cracks down polymer-chains.
European collections should be very careful here, especially in the light of the new EU-directive EU No. 162/2013 which prescribes even higher amounts of MEK for denaturing and prescribes usage of MEK in those countries which used different denaturing agents prior to 2013 (e.g. IMS / camphor).
All the best
Dirk
Am 11.07.2014 17:51, schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:
Dorothy
Wet collections have been using this system for some time now for alcohol labels with very good results. We are printing on to a spun bound polyester using a thermal transfer printer and wax/resin ribbon. This is obviously not a sticky backed label kind of media but I am sure a similar kind of thing could be sourced. Attached is some information on the system and printer that we use as well as a price list from Alpha Systems, the company through we which we buy our supplies.
Happy to provide further information or label samples if needed
Andy
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Andy Bentley
Ichthyology Collection Manager
University of Kansas
Biodiversity Institute
Dyche Hall
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
USA
Tel: (785) 864-3863
Fax: (785) 864-5335
Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
SPNHC President
http://www.spnhc.org
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On 7/10/14 9:45 AM, "Dorothy J. Allard" <djallard at uvm.edu><mailto:djallard at uvm.edu> wrote:
Hi folks,
We are looking for a print-on-demand (printing one label at a time)
method of annotating herbarium sheets. Can anyone share their
experience with thermal transfer label printers (_not_ direct thermal)
using wax resin ribbons and polypropylene labels? I am particularly
interested in the community's opinion on the likelihood that such
labels will be readable for the long term and will not break down.
We are considering the purchase of a Zebra GC420t printer, wax/resin
ribbons and polypropylene labels.
Thanks!
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Dorothy J. Allard, Ph.D.
Assistant Curator and Virtual Herbarium Coordinator Pringle Herbarium
Torrey Hall, 27 Colchester Ave.
Burlington, VT 05405
(802)656-3221
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Postanschrift:
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