[Nhcoll-l] fire control device

Dirk Neumann dirk.neumann at zsm.mwn.de
Wed Mar 2 13:36:05 EST 2016


... seems that the radical interceptors (white powder) that is used to 
stop the oxidisation (together with the impressive shock wave) would 
contaminate a considerable area, too (as far as I know these agents are 
special waste)?


Am 02.03.2016 um 18:54 schrieb Hawks, Catharine:
>
> Hi Steve
>
> Not sure that this would work as well for a gas/vapor fire, which is 
> what is at issue in a fluid collection – also, would clearly do 
> mechanical damage.
>
> That kind of mechanical damage is what made gaseous fire suppression 
> unpopular for museums, they work with a similar explosive impact – 
> well-maintained sprinklers do much less damage.
>
> No one should be using a fire extinguisher in a room full of flammable 
> liquids, they should immediately vacate the space and go pull a fire 
> alarm.
>
> Cathy
>
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> [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf Of *Steve Sullivan
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 02, 2016 12:34 PM
> *To:* 'NH-COLL listserv' <NHCOLL-L at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] fire control device
>
> Does anyone have experience or opinions about the Elide Fire Ball?  
> There are a variety of videos online that make it look like a 
> potentially useful supplement in places like wet collections.  While 
> it looks like it might have some objectionable residue, several videos 
> show it extinguishing fires quickly and, at the end of the video, 
> shows that the explosion doesn’t damage anything, including people.  
> In conditions where the specimens are protected from the dust, it 
> seems this could be a useful product.
>
> Here’s one example on Youtube, Universal Elide Fire Ball:
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dc6kfvq-2DERr0-26ebc-3DANyPxKpqSHputLe0VJSqu4-5F1BEADLRrTb5awEI2wOl23SqpHhfc43kGVmLxs0beMGcmuAFJKyb3Too-5FP7xGyOfpVafXkIEvexA&d=AwID-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=k3apuDKcpX5UaLv8bjdHSxP6Kf7wHeuNpVdJNkg61jQ&s=ZfB9Lk2dxzfWst2NRHm5nqxPRh_sOaXSEwLyqzSz_JU&e=  
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> And one of the websites: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.elide-2Dfire.com_en_&d=AwID-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=k3apuDKcpX5UaLv8bjdHSxP6Kf7wHeuNpVdJNkg61jQ&s=jB88YP0Gacdp5AYTPXljUJz6SUKFV-mVNHZzrCZ-UCA&e=  
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.elide-2Dfire.com_en_&d=AwMFAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=91ZI7xM9df9AT9hesHEMcbqCz4SdwplM85MtPbeiOf0&s=c5vGb6hF_ySSkdxGyfDGhe7w4E92429GisuqS_YWBcs&e=>
>
> --Steve
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