[Nhcoll-l] Details for Botany Bill - HR 1054 - ACTION ALERT

[Debra Trock]

Maybe I missed something here, but the original post on this thread was
about a Bill being introduced that would promote an increase in botanical
knowledge and promote the use of native plants in federal projects.  How
did this conversational thread get hijacked into a discussion of
legislation about endangered species and sage grousel?

Dr. Debra Trock
*Director of Science Collections &*
*Senior Collections Manager, Botany*
California Academy of Sciences
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On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:45 AM, Ellen Paul <ellen.paul at verizon.net> wrote:

> Just FYI, at least as of now, there is no active effort to list Greater
> Sage-grouse (you may as well use the correct common name, since we
> ornithologists actually have official common names and we capitalize).
>
> This has been an enormous source of discussion, fairly civilized, for many
> years. It resulted in this: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sciencemag.org_&d=DwIFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=AFobJEtHHYv3IFSp6PRU_-oK5cgoBAJetTrrOW1-EMI&s=FcRhxhyo17T_hvNyO_CM_xjKskAvkh8yXO5Vsx2XVgM&e= 
> news/2017/02/will-trump-revamp-complex-plan-save-endangered-sage-grouse
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sciencemag.org_news_2017_02_will-2Dtrump-2Drevamp-2Dcomplex-2Dplan-2Dsave-2Dendangered-2Dsage-2Dgrouse&d=DwMD-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=gwGdml77RY19PcFnsGj3fvNj0gxTrkB-894s1PY4swg&s=9RXEIv-4k5pNsfRyIH-YSyKruBl157JtQeBhe-JthoI&e=>
>
> The states did in fact fight the listing. That's what brought about this
> agreement.
>
> Anyone who thinks a listing now is even remotely possible isn't paying
> much attention to current events.
>
> Sorry to be negative but the bill was introduced by a Democrat, has one
> co-sponsor, and was sent to five committees. Those are not good odds.
>
> Ellen
>
> Ellen Paul
>
> Executive Director
>
> Ornithological Council
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nmnh.si.edu_BIRDNET&d=DwMD-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=gwGdml77RY19PcFnsGj3fvNj0gxTrkB-894s1PY4swg&s=ulB9Mq58UMkiYHnedUk-x3l7ibodn2Ky8FKo5IAaGT4&e=>
>
> Providing Scientific Information about Birds
>
>
> On 2/25/17 12:21 PM, Peter Rauch wrote:
>
> I am wondering what meaning is intended by this statement in the "Talking
> Points" document,
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__plantconservationalliance.org_files_pca_Talking-2520Points-25&d=DwIFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=AFobJEtHHYv3IFSp6PRU_-oK5cgoBAJetTrrOW1-EMI&s=QzmKtclgPlCQ_YVZbQe3zjG51-VQFGFeYYso2ZyKIrM&e= 
> 20Seed%20Strategy%20and%20Botany%20Bill.pdf
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__plantconservationalliance.org_files_pca_Talking-2520Points-2520Seed-2520Strategy-2520and-2520Botany-2520Bill.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=KsMMVHi9t8WMcvLWUZhWFr52jpZl0pJc0GZjGHeMfbg&s=sjsN_Qu9zFQTBAnMkoE0-LaSZ6VDYTigc0i_JLvsrc4&e=>
>
> "... and the potentially catastrophic effects on a 12 state region of a
> listing of the grouse as an endangered species."
>
> Will the listing create a catastrophic effect on those states?  If so, why
> would those states not fight against the proposed listing?
>
> Or, is there some more esoteric meaning being intended by the statement,
> such as "Gee, these states will be embarrassed and economically impacted by
> a listing of the Sage grouse, dissuading Sage grouse tourism, for example" ?
>
> And, btw, in my opinion this statement does not contain very persuasive
> "talking points".
>
> In any case, this Sage grouse Talking Point needs some urgent attention.
>
> Peter
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Richard Rabeler <rabeler at umich.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Colleagues:
>>
>> I am passing along this Action Alert from the American Society of Plant
>> Taxonomists' Environment and Public Policy Committee, providing information
>> and links about the recently introduced US legislation that aims to
>> increase botanical knowledge (and personnel!) within the US Department of
>> Interior and to create more demand for use of native, instead of
>> introduced, plant materials in federal projects.
>>
>> Rich Rabeler, MICH
>>
>>
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