[Nhcoll-l] Rite-in-Rain Paper

Thu Jan 5 17:36:54 EST 2017

Hi All,

I agree with the opinion that one should avoid putting anything in tubes with samples if at all possible.  That said, I collected a lot of fish tissues in the early 90’s and put a RITR label in every tube with 90% EtOH, 10% TE.  I was able to extract DNA from every sample and the DNA was in fine shape.  A friend here in Tacoma (where J.L. Darling is located) is the former  co-president of RITR. I have a call  in to him and will let the list know if I learn anything new or different from what has already been posted.
Best,
Peter

Peter Wimberger
Director, Slater Museum of Natural History
Albertson Professor, Biology and Environmental Studies
University of Puget Sound
Tacoma, WA  98416-1088

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Andy, Absolutely.  No disagreement there, i.e., external labels. Thanks for reminding the list.

I would still like to document the condition of tissue accessions rec'd with RIR labels and the USFWS hatchery folks are curious re: the use of Rite in Rain for temporary labels.

If there is a way to get an idea or if anyone has knowledge of RIR properties, I would like to hear about it.  I recognize that manufacturers do not share recipes,  but one never knows.

Lex

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>> wrote:
Lex

We have a policy here at KU that nothing gets put inside the tube except the tissue and preservative (if necessary).  There are just too many possible avenues of contamination from the “paper” to the “ink” to the residue left on the paper by human contact.  All labels are external and usually adhered before going in to the field using a Brady labeling system and cryo safe labeling material.

Andy

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Date: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 12:10 PM
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Rite-in-Rain Paper

Rite-in-Rain or "all weather" field paper is used by the many agency biologists depositing specimens and genetic samples with the MSB Division of Fishes and other repositories.   Recently, the USFWS Southwestern Native Aquatic Resources and Recovery Center has requested that I find out if there are any issues with using this paper for genetic labels in the field or otherwise.  They tried to get information from the Rite-in-Rain company re: what was in the paper and coating (formalin?) to determine if the paper would pose a problem for genetic samples.  The company was not forthcoming re: Rite-in-Rain product specifics.

We have had many genetic samples received at both the Center and the MSB with these paper tags  made by tearing pieces of paper out of the RIR field books, writing the sample number on RIR tag with pencil, and stuffing the tag into a cryotube.  Not optimal in terms of contamination issues, etc. but getting word out to field crews, etc. can be difficult.  For many projects, I preprint labels on polyspun paper (DataMax) for researchers, but there are many opportunistic collections that receive these temporary labels.

Any thoughts or insights?  Does anyone have an idea of how this paper is manufactured/treated?

 Thank you.

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