[Nhcoll-l] Barcodes and accession numbers

Wed Feb 24 12:57:33 EST 2021

Hi Folks,
I want to gently reinforce the context in which I believe Hannu is indicating that one-dimensional barcodes underperform. And that's the digitization context/reading a bar code from an image.

One dimensional bar codes for inventory management control - when read with a hand held scanner -- are dirt cheap, ubiquitous, accessible, platform agnostic, and a whole bunch of other kinds of desirable.

If they were not, you and the rest of the developed world wouldn't be enjoying the convenience of having groceries, hardware, clothing, etc. rung up accurately at the cash register by the billions each and every day.

To another point - which I believe John Simmons made - yes, for certain, include the catalog number for the object you are barcoding on your barcode label.

Best wishes,

Rob

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Andy & all

Would be useful to know what are you putting in your barcode number.  Web address, UUID, or something similar?

In any case, I hope you (and you all) do not anymore write data into traditional 1-dimensional barcodes.  When digitizing your collection 1-dimensional barcodes take excessive computing time to detect and decipher.  Besides, they can easily be printed wrongly, start or end bars missing, too much or too little ink, no error correction.   Please only use QR codes, thank you,

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On 2021-02-24 18:01, Miller, Andrew Nicholas wrote:
My apologies for not being clear.  We will keep all old accession (serial) numbers in our databases.  We will just stop assigning new numbers to specimens and only assign a barcode number.

Thanks for all the great opinions!

Andy
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Scientific publications may reference the old number?

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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Barcodes and accession numbers

In my training the term "accession number" historically applied in herbarium situations meant the same as the unique "catalog number" in non-herbarium collections.

I might be wrestling with the same issue in coming years.

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Accession codes, as Andy Bentley points out, normally record the legal transfer of rights to a defined collection or batch of specimens. However, what you mean might be closer to a "serial number". It is advantageous for every lot to have a unique serial number in the database, as catalog numbers can be duplicates. We have about 15,000 duplicate pairs of catalog numbers out of just over 500,000 records in the Malacology database. Each record has a unique serial number, though, so the pairs don't cause sorting anomalies or other such problems. They will get resolved one by one...

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Now that we are barcoding our herbarium specimens, we are thinking about dropping our historical method of assigning internal accession numbers.  Is there any reason to keep both numbers.

Thanks,

Andy

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