[Nhcoll-l] CITES question

[John E Simmons]

Rod,
Ben's advice is good, but I suggest in addition before you contact Fish and
Wildlife you get copies of the permits and check the dates of collection
and importation. If possible get the potential donor to write a letter
confirming the dates of importation. If the specimens came into the US
before the US was a signatory to CITES, this will make everything easier,
and if you have all the documentation you can get in advance, it will make
your talk with F&W much more productive.

New Jersey (and Pennsylvania) are in the Northeast Region, which means your
regional office is in Hadley, Massachusetts:
https://www.fws.gov/office/northeast-region-headquarters4

Both African Lions and Nile Crocodiles are listed on two appendices each,
so you will also need to know the country of origin of the specimens. Under
CITES, "If a specimen was obtained prior. to the CITES listing date of that
species—collected from the wild or held in captivity—it may be granted a
pre-Convention certificate that will allow for the specimen to be exported."

--John

John E. Simmons
Writer and Museum Consultant
Museologica
*and*
Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia
Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima


On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 11:42 AM Pellegrini, Rodrigo [DOS] <
Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.nj.gov> wrote:

> A potential donor has offered several mounts to the New Jersey State
> Museum, and two of them that we are considering are listed in CITES: an
> African lion and a Nile crocodile.
> The donors have permits for them, but are located in Pennsylvania and
> don't know if the restrictions on selling the mounts out of their home
> state would apply to donating them to a museum out of state.
>
> Our collection is largely paleontological, and I have not dealt with CITES
> very much at all.
>
> In order to accept the mounts, what would we have to do? Does the museum
> need to get some sort of CITES certification? I assume we would need some
> kind of permit?
> And, would the donors even be allowed to donate them to us given their
> current permit restrictions?
>
> Thanks for any guidance.
>
> Rod Pellegrini
> Natural History Registrar
> New Jersey State Museum
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